And, thanks to Sandy, we find out the name Elizabeth in the Sonnets. Now, can we find the name Henry ou Southampton through the Sonnets as we found this one O. The affair stopped around , and Manners born by the end of , so I think he maybe have been a non identical twin to Southampton.
But can I just have your opinion :P? Well, a part of it, at least is there and exactly just before I should add, that in the original there are NO apostropes — though generally in the modern transcriptions usually you can find them. But without the apostrophes — as is the real case- the have nothing to do with each other. In this case the sequence is something like this from the mouth of the Queen :. I hate you …. When to Tudor, I think it should be a little more complicated.
When to Roger Manners, he was the 5th Earl of Rutland. He was born in and was poisoned in , dieing then. And finnaly we have Roger Manners. Som have thought him as Shakespeare and he had some connections.
So, certainly Rutland was close to Shakespeare or whoever he was. Did the Queen herself wanted her bastard to be educated by his own half-brother? Could Manners be a pun and a prove Rutland, yet imprisioned in the Tower too for being involved in the Essex Rebellion, was somehow important? Maybe we can find Rutland too in the Sonnets. I think they were Antipholus of Ephesus and Antipholus of Syracuse, respectively.
And both Anne and Adriana are acused by their husband of infiedelity. I must catch up with the last several emails. Whitemmore, thanks! Thanks a lot!! And I have more. Baconians believed Bacon said he himself was a royal bastard. He and Essex. The two fair issues are told by baconians to be Bacon and Essex, but they can be Southampton and Rutland! They were the children of the Queen, so, the heirs and they were children of the first born of the Queen too.
Thanks Francisco and Sandy for the promptings and inspirations. I have had few colleagues with whom to discuss such details, but, as they say, God is in the details! In any case, look here about the first line of I had thought at one time that Roger Manners may have been the actual child of Mary Browne, for whom Southampton was substituted, but who knows?
Good point, Whittemore. So oft have I invoked thee for my Muse, And found such fair assistance in my verse As every alien pen hath got my use And under thee their poesy disperse.
Try to guess who is this doulbe majesty… Southampton and Rutland. It could be the Queen, but she is already full of grace by all the poets, but Rutland is not. Until this Roger Manners track appeared, my answer would have been that both Elizabeth and Southampton have Grace already. The fact of his birth has added to her Majesty by making it double, a double majesty. And the brother of the youth is present in the sonnets? Good question…. The Queen have already all the grace for being who she is, and Southampton is not seen by England as the next King.
And this add gives grace i. Oxford himself? Or Rutland? Sandy, Roger Manners was the 5th Earl of Rutland. He was born in October and died in He was also involved in the Essex Rebellion and, like Southampton, he was sent free when James took the throne and the punishment to both, like to the other traitors, was to pay a great sum of money.
Yes, I start to think Rutland must have been a second Fair Youth that no one could see in more than years. But he is not the main character of the Sonnets and his aparence is discret, much more or else soon academics would have seen a second man in the sonnets. Well, some have seen but never in the PT Theoryist context. Thank you for the 26 sonnets between I will try to see something ;. Francisco, this 26 is a key number in the sonnets, of The Monument. The first 26 sonnets are about the Fair Youth, then from the 27th comes the Rebellion, and so on..
Meanwhile, the number 6 itself is important through the sonnets, as Whittemore found. So, is a peculiar number. And well, I read Sonnet 39 again and my suspicions confirmed. Why I say this? Because only the elder could inherit the throne and thanks to Whittemore, we can conclude Southampton was the rightful heir of England, so he must have been the older twin.
Now, look at the first stanza of Sonnet What can mine own praise to mine own self bring? O Earl [of] Oxford , identifying then the author.
Now I get it when Oxford and Southampton are the same. The rest of this sonnet, Oxford takes a bow on praising Rutland and let cristal clear Southampton should be the main character of the Sonnets. So, what about Rutland, anyway? I think we can find him through puns, methaphors and double-meaning words. First, Oxford has now concluded a deal that, in the first place, enabled Southampton to be spared from execution.
The deal involves, in part, what Oxford testifies in Sonnet 36 — they can no longer acknowledge each other. So, in one sense, the sonnets you mention are framing the relationship within this new context. You cannot love me, so you must hate me; this is our fate from here on, publicly and I believe privately as well. So Oxford is writing about this allegorically, or metaphorically — not sure the accurate word.
Second, the deal also involved Southampton giving up his blood right, his possible succession, at any point from here on; and for that, Southampton may well be angry at his father for this. Oxford is trying to make up for it by creating this monument for him, and has said so already in 81, but why should Southampton accept that in place of the real thing? But Southampton may well have wanted to fight back. Now, during this very time, friends of Southampton called Octavians after the eighth of Feb are gathering, in and out of the Tower, talking about the possibility of another rebellion against Cecil, who is now all powerful.
And Southampton does not. You have identified an interlude within the rest of the year up to maybe January when this took place. I think it was mainly in October or so Oxford had put everything on the line in that deal. He got Southampton to beg for mercy, to write to Cecil and the council, even to write that poem to the Queen, and now the young earl has been spared, but probably thinking, well, I had to do all that, in order to save my skin.
Now, after breathing a sigh of relief, and taking a deep breath, is he rattling the cage again? Threatening to upset this delicate balance? The only one how could fill all this was Rutland, who supposedly born in the same day that Southampton three years before him but only appear cleary and present in documents when he entered to Cambridge in And possibles puns in the plays and in the sonnets make a connection between the two earls.
The answer to this, as I said, is in Sonnet Francisco, I can remember that some months ago I asked the very same question, as I also find it interesting. Portia and Nerissa watch as several suitors try to win her love, through picking one of three caskets: gold, silver or lead - but they all fail.
Portia is delighted. He writes to Bassanio, who leaves Belmont with Portia's money to try and help his friend. Portia follows Bassanio to the court, in disguise as a male lawyer. She asks Shylock to be merciful but he is determined to take a pound of Antonio's flesh and have his revenge. In front of the Venetian court, Portia examines the original contract between Shylock and Antonio. She tells the court Shylock can only take a pound of flesh if he spills no blood and Shylock admits this isn't possible.
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